05-08-2024, 07:01 PM | #29 | |
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My Equinox with a 1.5L Turbo gets 24MPG. WHAT A JOKE!!! If it had a Buick 3.8, it would get at least 27! My 2002 Park Avenue got 29. |
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05-08-2024, 07:05 PM | #30 | |
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Oy vay. She is absolutely insane. The board has got to stop her. Does anyone in this company’s management have any common sense any more?
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05-08-2024, 07:13 PM | #31 | |
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She's the pilot and she's target fixated on the ground. It appears as though its too late. I know of other dumb companies ran by clones of hers that will soon be in trouble too! My inlaws dealership took a buyout for the Buick Brand from GM. Smartest thing they ever did. Buick is trying to be the next GM moniker to go down in flames. Chevy is trying to follow soon after from the look of it. |
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05-08-2024, 07:24 PM | #32 | |
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GM had no choice but to end the 3800 in 2007 because it had gotten to the point it was impossible for that motor to meet ever increasing emission regs. That’s why the 3.6 was brought up - it’s not much better on fuel but far more emission compliant. You should see the mess diesel guys have on their hands now. $10,000 worth of DPFs, a billion oxygen sensors, sophisticated, complicated, and expensive exhaust systems, and of course the DEF additive. If you don’t maintain a diesel to a T, changing the oil really every 3,000 miles no matter what, and not letting it sit and idle long (it’s a diesel - they used to be made to do that) you’ll have $10k in repairs that AREN’T the actual engine issue.
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05-08-2024, 07:42 PM | #33 | |
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Yep, that diesel catalyst is a huge scam! Did you know that diesel emissions were reduced 90% from 1990 to 2011? The increased emissions regulations on OTR trucking after 2010 caused the fuel mileage to go from 8MPG to 6 or 7MPG. What a huge waste!! |
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05-09-2024, 09:28 AM | #34 | |
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Do not buy into the excuse making against a new 3800. Current smallblocks can, so can a 3.8 if they want that size. My main daily is still a diesel for now. I used to let the motor bog down, and learned rich & cold are bad for DPFs. Maxing the highway percent of miles, or alternately giving it more air in a lower than holdable gear helps. Yes, that sacrifices mpg. Then, you're at the mercy of the DEF system, with multiple fluid heaters and 2 NOx sensors, hoping to avoid a fault-forced limp mode count-down. An un-necessary, dangerous limp-mode. A diesel range extender is a better idea than a big-battery electric truck. It would need no DEF system, not run lean with the battery as a load buffer. Then, an 8-lug wheel electric truck might actually have 2500 capability. |
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05-09-2024, 09:45 AM | #35 | |
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If GM doesn't solidify and get a better hold on the automotive field, they will pin themselves in a worse hole than ford, with solely relying on the truck market. The truck market is lucrative, but without any other notable product it will further erode GM's reputation of being a competitive automotive corporation. Edit: I saw the article by NYTimes online, so the rumor is basically true. The EVs I feel will be less than successful. At any rate, I wish Chevrolet well. The company will be in store for hard times. Honda Accord, Civics; Toyota Camry and Corolla are still selling. I'm not even mentioning Hyundai and Kia. Something is terribly wrong with GM's vision. On the one hand, the Malibu nameplate is very old, so it isn't such a bad decision to retire it for something new. On the other hand, continuing to ignore the sedan and alternate car markets seems to be quite unwise, especially since there has been a marked kickback rejection of EVs. This will mean that besides the trucks, the market will continue to be lucrative for Civic, Accord and Camry. I feel that this was a poor decision.
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05-09-2024, 10:09 AM | #36 | |
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And this week I drove an Equinox (LT) for the first time. It's a good SUV but has some glaring deficiencies. It's a plastic shitbox inside. The 6-speed auto is the only thing that potentially competes with how horrible and archaic GM's 4-speed autos are in a modern world. Terrible. Maybe Equinoxes get better in higher trim levels, but geez...that thing was CHEAP. |
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05-09-2024, 10:58 AM | #37 | |
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GM’s current Gen V small block design debuted in 2014 as an all new engine design. So it meets current emission standards.
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05-09-2024, 11:13 AM | #38 | |
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Wait, what about diesels? LOL. That's nonsense. Modern diesels are some of the most robust and powerful diesels on the road. We're like 20 years down the road from when heavy trucks started adopting DEF. Things have changed...a lot. And having owned and driven heavy diesels and diesels in light duty pickups, that sounds a little cuckoo given my own experience with them. |
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05-09-2024, 11:25 AM | #39 | |
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Rather than deal with that uncertainty I tuned out DEF but WTF were they thinking when they basically shut the f^cking truck down after only 100 miles?!?! Especially when the trucks software and/or sensors are evidently pretty unreliable. Really pissed me off. Next truck will probably be a Tacoma. |
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05-09-2024, 11:34 AM | #40 | |
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Yep, mines a generic terd even though it has the LT AWD package. I'd much rather have had a big sedan with a trunk. There's nowhere to lock things up in an Equinox. Not even a glove box lock! I borrow my kids Impala when I go to the shooting range because I dont want a cop taking a stroll through my range bag. Once my ZLE is paid off next year, I'm thinking about buying a BMW M5 and ditching the Equinox. |
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05-09-2024, 11:38 AM | #41 |
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Oh... and then the transmission went out two weeks past the warranty expiration date
Luckily it was 200 mile shy of the mileage limit so GM stepped up and covered 2/3 of it, but only because it is a known problem. My next truck will probably be a Tacoma. |
05-09-2024, 12:30 PM | #42 | |
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I’m talking about all the other added crap beyond the DEF. Have you actually seen the complete fuel and emission system of any of your modern diesels? I mean those built in the last 10 years, not 20 years ago. The DPF (diesel particulate filters, essentially their new catalytic converters) alone is about $7k for the part without labor and those things are going south especially on commercial Ram/Sprinters and like crazy, just after the warranty is out. They clog up when idling.
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